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		<title>By: Tannishtha Chatterjee</title>
		<link>http://highbarnet.org/2009/02/18/chipping-barnet-residents-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-198</link>
		<dc:creator>Tannishtha Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what we need is for a determined Councillor to propose a motion along the lines of: &lt;br/&gt;“the Chief Executive is to provide&lt;br/&gt;1. a Director and senior manager from Planning, Highways, Housing and Education at Residents’ Forums in each of the Constituencies four times per year&lt;br/&gt;2. a strong experienced Convener to assist the Councillor Chairman and to run the moment to moment business of the area forums&lt;br/&gt;3. an open forum on the website for residents to raise specialist issues in public with a commitment of responses from the highest levels.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Will Duncan pledge to make such a motion at the next Council meeting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what we need is for a determined Councillor to propose a motion along the lines of: <br />“the Chief Executive is to provide<br />1. a Director and senior manager from Planning, Highways, Housing and Education at Residents’ Forums in each of the Constituencies four times per year<br />2. a strong experienced Convener to assist the Councillor Chairman and to run the moment to moment business of the area forums<br />3. an open forum on the website for residents to raise specialist issues in public with a commitment of responses from the highest levels.</p>
<p>Will Duncan pledge to make such a motion at the next Council meeting?</p>
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		<title>By: Rog T</title>
		<link>http://highbarnet.org/2009/02/18/chipping-barnet-residents-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-197</link>
		<dc:creator>Rog T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tannishtha Chatterjee&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You said :-&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;So what we are really asking for from the Council is a commitment to participatory democracy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Within easy reach of residents’ homes and as a regular occurrence.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;d say that I&#039;d completely agree with this. I would say that there should be single issue forums as well. With the internet, it should be possible to allow residents to select a topic from a list so that maybe every six months you could have a special forum on a subject chosen by popular vote. The council could then make sure the right people were there to answer the questions. A mix of general and specialised meetings would seem a good way to go.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I didn&#039;t compare myself to the former MP for Oldham. I just pointed out that he was rather good at hurling insults in the finest British tradition. I&#039;m flattered that you drew that conclusion though,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tannishtha Chatterjee</p>
<p>You said :-</p>
<p>&#8220;So what we are really asking for from the Council is a commitment to participatory democracy.</p>
<p>Within easy reach of residents’ homes and as a regular occurrence.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that I&#8217;d completely agree with this. I would say that there should be single issue forums as well. With the internet, it should be possible to allow residents to select a topic from a list so that maybe every six months you could have a special forum on a subject chosen by popular vote. The council could then make sure the right people were there to answer the questions. A mix of general and specialised meetings would seem a good way to go.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t compare myself to the former MP for Oldham. I just pointed out that he was rather good at hurling insults in the finest British tradition. I&#8217;m flattered that you drew that conclusion though,</p>
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		<title>By: Tannishtha Chatterjee</title>
		<link>http://highbarnet.org/2009/02/18/chipping-barnet-residents-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-196</link>
		<dc:creator>Tannishtha Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what we are really asking for from the Council is a commitment to participatory democracy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Within easy reach of residents’ homes and as a regular occurrence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what we are really asking for from the Council is a commitment to participatory democracy.</p>
<p>Within easy reach of residents’ homes and as a regular occurrence.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Macdonald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan Macdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A neutral Chairman would be  very good thing. The problem is that Cllrs are getting paid allowances to chair these meetings. I don&#039;t see them giving that up anytime soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A neutral Chairman would be  very good thing. The problem is that Cllrs are getting paid allowances to chair these meetings. I don&#8217;t see them giving that up anytime soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Tannishtha Chatterjee</title>
		<link>http://highbarnet.org/2009/02/18/chipping-barnet-residents-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-194</link>
		<dc:creator>Tannishtha Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rog T, thanks for the offer which I must respectfully decline.&lt;br/&gt;[you shouldn&#039;t compare yourself to Churchill - people might be eating]&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, I don&#039;t think that Single Issue Forums are a good idea because, in my opinion, one single public forum per year on a subject of public interest is unreasonable.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think the Chief Exec should ensure that a high level rep from all the major council departments each area forum.  [12 meetings per year is not too much to ask - ask any School Governor]&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And a neutral chairman should rule the audience with a rod of iron - just like an experienced trade union convenor.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What do you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rog T, thanks for the offer which I must respectfully decline.<br />[you shouldn't compare yourself to Churchill - people might be eating]</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t think that Single Issue Forums are a good idea because, in my opinion, one single public forum per year on a subject of public interest is unreasonable.</p>
<p>I think the Chief Exec should ensure that a high level rep from all the major council departments each area forum.  [12 meetings per year is not too much to ask - ask any School Governor]</p>
<p>And a neutral chairman should rule the audience with a rod of iron &#8211; just like an experienced trade union convenor.</p>
<p>What do you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Rog T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rog T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tannishtha Chatterjee said...&lt;br/&gt; I&#039;ll tell you what. I&#039;ll post a blog on my site about single issue residents forums. If you come over and post sensible comments without calling me a lunatic or questioning my level of self respect, I will be perfectly civil to you, just as I am to other Tories such as David Miller and Daniel Hope. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I can&#039;t say fairer than that can I. If you check the first response from me to your comment, it was a perfectly reasonable one detailing the public transport from Childs Hill to East Barnet. You then tried to suggest that what constitues a reasonable bus journey was a party political issue, which I thought was a ridiculous point to make, given that I know many Tories who make bus journeys. Anyway as Duncan has had enough of this thread and your comments, let me know and I&#039;ll let you say whatever you like ! You could be the Barnet Eye&#039;s first guest blogger.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And if that isn&#039;t a reasonable offer, I really don&#039;t know what is.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One other point I will make. The hurling of insults at political opponents is a perfectly normal part of the British political process. Former Liberal MP and arguably the Greatest British Prime Minister, Winston Churchill was possibly the finest and most celebrated proponent of this art.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tannishtha Chatterjee said&#8230;<br /> I&#8217;ll tell you what. I&#8217;ll post a blog on my site about single issue residents forums. If you come over and post sensible comments without calling me a lunatic or questioning my level of self respect, I will be perfectly civil to you, just as I am to other Tories such as David Miller and Daniel Hope. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say fairer than that can I. If you check the first response from me to your comment, it was a perfectly reasonable one detailing the public transport from Childs Hill to East Barnet. You then tried to suggest that what constitues a reasonable bus journey was a party political issue, which I thought was a ridiculous point to make, given that I know many Tories who make bus journeys. Anyway as Duncan has had enough of this thread and your comments, let me know and I&#8217;ll let you say whatever you like ! You could be the Barnet Eye&#8217;s first guest blogger.</p>
<p>And if that isn&#8217;t a reasonable offer, I really don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
<p>One other point I will make. The hurling of insults at political opponents is a perfectly normal part of the British political process. Former Liberal MP and arguably the Greatest British Prime Minister, Winston Churchill was possibly the finest and most celebrated proponent of this art.</p>
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		<title>By: Tannishtha Chatterjee</title>
		<link>http://highbarnet.org/2009/02/18/chipping-barnet-residents-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>Tannishtha Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or we could debate the subject of single issue residents area forums.&lt;br/&gt;Without the personal attacks.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What do you think Rog T, are you able to hold a debate just on the issues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or we could debate the subject of single issue residents area forums.<br />Without the personal attacks.  </p>
<p>What do you think Rog T, are you able to hold a debate just on the issues?</p>
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		<title>By: Rog T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rog T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tannishtha Chatterjee &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You could :-&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;a) Start your own blog and moderate it as you wish&lt;br/&gt;b) Stand for council against Duncan MacDonald&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If you don&#039;t like the way he acts as a councillor or a blogmaster. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Mind you, as you are anonymous, for all we know You already have. Maybe it&#039;s paid for at the public expense?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As I understand it Liberal means tolerant of other views. As he&#039;s posted all of your comments, no matter how stupid, I&#039;d say he&#039;s pretty liberal. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As has been pointed out to you and you are too gutless to acknoweldge, you have been very insulting to me and unlike me you&#039;ve hidden behind a cloak of anonymity.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Someone who thinks that a bus journey of less than 1 hour is something only people with no self respect would undertake is clearly a rather odd individual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tannishtha Chatterjee </p>
<p>You could :-</p>
<p>a) Start your own blog and moderate it as you wish<br />b) Stand for council against Duncan MacDonald</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t like the way he acts as a councillor or a blogmaster. </p>
<p>Mind you, as you are anonymous, for all we know You already have. Maybe it&#8217;s paid for at the public expense?</p>
<p>As I understand it Liberal means tolerant of other views. As he&#8217;s posted all of your comments, no matter how stupid, I&#8217;d say he&#8217;s pretty liberal. </p>
<p>As has been pointed out to you and you are too gutless to acknoweldge, you have been very insulting to me and unlike me you&#8217;ve hidden behind a cloak of anonymity.</p>
<p>Someone who thinks that a bus journey of less than 1 hour is something only people with no self respect would undertake is clearly a rather odd individual.</p>
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		<title>By: Tannishtha Chatterjee</title>
		<link>http://highbarnet.org/2009/02/18/chipping-barnet-residents-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>Tannishtha Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a discussion on the merits of an idea to have single issue Residents&#039; Forums.  But then Rog T started &#039;Robustly&#039; attacking the individuals involved in the discussion, Duncan allowed him to do this, and the inital subject of discussion was lost.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t think that this would be anyway to run a Council.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a discussion on the merits of an idea to have single issue Residents&#8217; Forums.  But then Rog T started &#8216;Robustly&#8217; attacking the individuals involved in the discussion, Duncan allowed him to do this, and the inital subject of discussion was lost.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that this would be anyway to run a Council.</p>
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		<title>By: Tannishtha Chatterjee</title>
		<link>http://highbarnet.org/2009/02/18/chipping-barnet-residents-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-189</link>
		<dc:creator>Tannishtha Chatterjee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Duncan is prepared to condone a robust attack on a person if somebody does not like their expressed views.  He&#039;s obviously very Liberal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Duncan is prepared to condone a robust attack on a person if somebody does not like their expressed views.  He&#8217;s obviously very Liberal.</p>
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